Chasing Dead Ancestors

Who is Jesse Varner Phillip’s Daddy?

Written By: mic - Feb• 20•19


Jesse Varner Phillips born 1876 Baldwin County, Alabama

          According to the Phillips family this is their lineage:

Zachariah C Phillips born 1810 AL died 1868 Baldwin County  and Elizabeth Ricard 1810-1855. Their son was:

William Henry Harrison Phillips 1841-1883 who married Elizabeth Newell (1842-1876 ) 23 October 1870 in Baldwin County

Children:

Saphronia  born 1873

Jesse Varner born 1876

A descendant has contacted me that my brother is matching her on FTDNA

As 3-5 cousin Matches on Chromosome 5  12.6 cM 

Jesse Varner would be her Great Grandfather

I do not show as a match to her

Another of her cousins, Eunice,  matches my brother 17 cM

The lady and I do match on Ancestry 20.6 cM

          Her cousin Eunice matches me on FTDNA at16.8 cM

Two male Phillips descendants have taken the Y-DNA test

          Neither match other Phillips descendants they should be matching.

          They do, however, match two men surnamed Shipp

          As discussion in the current family between those who have DNA tested and those who have not, someone said an older relative in 2008 told them he was uncertain but he thought Jesse’s mother may have been Zachariah’s sister or daughter, or at least she was a Phillips and his father may have been a Shipp.

My maternal Great Great Grandmother was Missouri Amanda Shipp, born in   Georgia and buried in Hunt County, Texas

          My lineage is:

          Mic

          Mother (McCown)

          Grandmother (Dodson)

          G Grandfather (Dodson)

          GG Grandmother (Missouri Amanda Shipp)

          GGGGrandfather (William Shipp)

          GGGGGrandfather (Benjamin Shipp)

Benjamin Shipp Born 1735 Carolina Co, VA  Died 1796 Hancock Co, GA

          Wife Mary died after 1796 GA

          Richard 1762 NC- Served RW

          John      1764 NC

          Christianna 1766 NC

          Elizabeth 1768

          William 1769

          Mary 1770

          David 1773 NC-Died 1820 AL married Barbary Ransom

                   William died about 1845-( before 1849) Baldwin Co, AL

                   His wife was Mary born about 1810 and died after 1860 census

She was married a 2nd time 11 Oct 1849 to William Powell Baldwin Co, AL

                   3 Sons:

                   James David born about 1838 Baldwin County AL-died 27 Dec 1920

                             Serve Co B 1st VA Regmt, CSA

                             Married 1st Eliza Newell August 22, 1865 Monroe Co, AL

                             Children:

                             Robert ca 1867

Laura Ann 1868-1934

                             James Jefferson 1869-1920

Florence J 1871-1905

                             Married 2nd Minnie Sherman (1888-1969)

                             Geneva         1906-1990

                             James David         1907-1981          

                   Robert- born about 1842- On 1860 census-death unknown

John Eli-born 16 Dec 1844 Baldwin Co, AL died 21 Jan 1914

                             Served Co B 1st VA Regmt CSA

Married 1st Sarah Jane Phillips 1847-1871 Baldwin County Oct 27, 1869

Married 2nd Mary Ellen Elizabeth Nolen 1858-1937 Baldwin County Jan 21, 1877

                             Children:

                             Marie B 1871-1936

                             Alex Napoleon 1880-1967

                             Charles Columbus 1880-1973

                             George W 1890-1936

On Ancestry I found I match a Shipp

                   At 28.5 cM who has a tree going back to my Benjamin Shipp and taking his lineage to John Eli Shipp and Mary E Nolan

Notice:

James David Shipp married Eliza Newell Aug 22, 1865 Monroe Co, AL

WHH Phillips married Elizabeth Newell Oct 23 1870 Monroe Co, AL

Are these the same women?

Check ages of James David’s children (2 year intervals)

Check census records of 1870 and 1880 for James D ‘s wife

Check census of 1880 for Wm H Phillips and Jesse Varner Phillips

Check Find a Grave for BetsyAnn Newell Phillips 1842 born Clarke Co, AL -1876 buried Little River Baptist Church Cemetery Monroe County, AL

Check Death Certificate for Jessie V Phillips : Parents-William Phillips and Betsey Ann Newel

Check 1880 Census of John Eli Shipp-ages of children, etc

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